#include<bits/stdc++.h>

using namespace std;

#define MAXA 1000010

#define MAXB 1010

int i,j,lenA,lenB;

int p[MAXB];

char SA[MAXA],SB[MAXB];

int main() {

        scanf("%s",SA+); lenA = strlen(SA+);

        scanf("%s",SB+); lenB = strlen(SB+);

        p[] = ;

        for (i = ; i <= lenB; i++) {

                j = p[i-];

                while ((j > ) && (SB[i] != SB[j+])) j = p[j];

                if (SB[i] == SB[j+]) p[i] = j + ;

                else p[i] = ;

        }

        j = ;

        for (i = ; i <= lenA; i++) {

                while ((j > ) && (SA[i] != SB[j+])) j = p[j];

                if (SA[i] == SB[j+]) j++;

                if (j == lenB) {

                        cout<< i - lenB +  << ' ' << i << endl;

                        exit();

                }

        }

        cout<< "NO" << endl;

        return ;

}